There's the only solution: the realization that normiecon-ism isn't worshipping 18th century secular liberal ideals, but Christian republican ideals. Only a return to Christ will save the Constitution and oppose secularism.
This is also the limiting principle Berry is looking for to avoid becoming Nazis. We believe all men are equal becau…
There's the only solution: the realization that normiecon-ism isn't worshipping 18th century secular liberal ideals, but Christian republican ideals. Only a return to Christ will save the Constitution and oppose secularism.
This is also the limiting principle Berry is looking for to avoid becoming Nazis. We believe all men are equal because all men are made in the image of God and share a common ancestry a few thousand years old, and Christ died for all men. That's why we can acknowledge generalities in group difference without becoming DNA obsessed race essentialists: because we are Christians, not materialists
God has many benefits, but He never allows Himself to be a means to another end. He is The End. If you call upon him in order to save the constitution or republicanism He will say no.
I would never say we should return to Christ as a means to an end. I'm saying we, as a nation, need to repent and acknowledge Christ as Lord. Because it's True, and the right thing to do. That temporal blessings flow from having a rightly ordered society is just a fact, not a pragmatic/consequntialist pursuit of gain
In addition to educating WHY and HOW it was created in the first place. Understanding the clauses. "It doesn't work" largely means "I don't understand it". The ways to create change are written in the damn document. Read it
The people criticizing the constitution as fatally flawed are mad that a) it didn’t create utopia and b) that it didn’t prevent traitors from undermining and distorting and usurping it
Lmao that's like asking Rome to return to it's republican, pagan roots in 450AD. Too stupid to even consider. The times have changed. The conditions have changed. The people have changed. The constitution is so dead it's not even a good joke to invoke it.
There's the only solution: the realization that normiecon-ism isn't worshipping 18th century secular liberal ideals, but Christian republican ideals. Only a return to Christ will save the Constitution and oppose secularism.
This is also the limiting principle Berry is looking for to avoid becoming Nazis. We believe all men are equal because all men are made in the image of God and share a common ancestry a few thousand years old, and Christ died for all men. That's why we can acknowledge generalities in group difference without becoming DNA obsessed race essentialists: because we are Christians, not materialists
God has many benefits, but He never allows Himself to be a means to another end. He is The End. If you call upon him in order to save the constitution or republicanism He will say no.
I would never say we should return to Christ as a means to an end. I'm saying we, as a nation, need to repent and acknowledge Christ as Lord. Because it's True, and the right thing to do. That temporal blessings flow from having a rightly ordered society is just a fact, not a pragmatic/consequntialist pursuit of gain
This is absolutely the distinction, great way to put it!
You missed much of Dave's point that the Constitution does not work.
No, I disagree with his point. It works, under a specific set of circumstances, for a specific type of population.
It doesn't work NOW, but just don't buy "if the rule you follow led you to this..." line of reasoning.
The Constitution failed because of liberalism, yes. Theological liberalism, leading to mass apostasy and degeneracy
"It doesn't work NOW, but just don't buy "if the rule you follow led you to this..." line of reasoning"
So the constitution doesn't work. We need to move beyond it.
Right now? No, because we are not a moral and religious people.
Or... return to the conditions that made it possible in the first place.
In addition to educating WHY and HOW it was created in the first place. Understanding the clauses. "It doesn't work" largely means "I don't understand it". The ways to create change are written in the damn document. Read it
The people criticizing the constitution as fatally flawed are mad that a) it didn’t create utopia and b) that it didn’t prevent traitors from undermining and distorting and usurping it
Definitely b). I mean that is the whole point, I think.
Lmao that's like asking Rome to return to it's republican, pagan roots in 450AD. Too stupid to even consider. The times have changed. The conditions have changed. The people have changed. The constitution is so dead it's not even a good joke to invoke it.
I don't think a mass revival is impossible. Improbable, and our society's collapse is probably inevitable.
But Christianity wins in the end
Fair enough
Do you have a replacement?
And an army?
No. But something will grow organically.
Yes. I have an army of schizophrenic, retarded internet frogs. We are anonymous. We are retarded. WE ARE LEGION!!!!!!!!!
That seems to be the…plan…?
No plans buddy. Just living in the moment.