Dave that was quite the journey! I have actually been on a journey to discover alternatives to what I call a Culture of Separation, for fifty years - without going in depth here, please check out this overview piece I wrote on my Symbiotic Culture Substack linked below.
This is not the case of me promoting my own work, but this seems the best way to get your attention - a very hard commodity these days. I believe those of us who are writing in this area should support one another and be in dialogue and collaboration if possible.
You will also see that I have just released my book as a free weekly series there. For me this is more a lifelong calling rather than promoting anything for myself. It is just that there are certain principles that are very precious to me that need to be a part of a new public conversation.
Symbiotic Culture Overview (I promise it is not very long!)
Interesting take on Rod Dreher. I’ve been reading his Substack off and on for about two years, and while some of his writing is very good, some of it strikes me as strange or incongruent. He seems angry or moody or volatile or something, especially in light of his Benedictine thinking. Perhaps it’s his divorce. He does have some protective followers. When he references Trump, he seems to want to have it both ways (vote for the awful, despicable, clown!).
I understand the concept and love the blueprint, but I feel like the most difficult part of this is finding a group locally that is like-minded, and is willing to put the effort and intensity into it that is needed to start building up the skeleton. And, doing it without letting the modernity pathogen in. I still see a need for an elite group of skeleton-builders directing the construction.
I feel the same way about finding people to participate in a joint venture on this subject. The answer to the question that I have come up with is twofold: 1) clarity of vision and 2) ownership. If you can put your white collar skills to work and draft a business plan then you will want to start with vision and mission statements, the clearer the better. Regarding ownership; I am saving up to buy land to build a farmstead and small village. Being the owner shifts the paradigm and the conversation. I’m not saying you should become a farmer but maybe thinking of the problem in terms of a business-like solution can help you shift your mindset. Also, being the owner means that anyone joining me will be doing things my way which is where the clarity of my vision and mission comes into play.
A fine essay! I have recently thought about getting a job as a tutor, but my hesitancy to help further someone's journey into Academia(TM) has stalled out that thought (like, working at an afterschool tutoring center mostly helping public school kids). Any words of advice?
Open source the lesson plans(see the programming resource "ziglings")? khan adecminy like videos? Focus on a sane topic without credentials, or just reading old books?
Now that I was properly called out for tldr'ing this essay and finished the read. A very interesting way of scoping out the same issue I have had in my head for at least the last two years: how do we actually start having a real foundation to regroup and retool for the coming Era?
In my case, I've had the concept of an organization dedicated to putting newlywed families or families with newborns into homes donated to them fo free or for an extremely low rent-to-buy. This could fall under the Legs or Hips, depending on how you prefer to look at it, but I prefer to think of it as mutual aid. By giving the opportunity to a family to not have to worry about a mortgage payment fitting in with child-rearing supplies, I could start to build a set of people that can begin the generational wealth again. Bonus points for the house being on arable land, even more so if they are nearby people of the same mind.
Of course, this is quite a challenge, and would impact only a small amount of people without major charity, but it is at the minimum giving me a puzzle to work with until opportunity arises. But as certain efforts continue, I imagine that we will see that bones, even broken ones, begin to knit when close together.
Great post, especially the bones bit. Rufo doesn't want to "pour gasoline onto the bonfire of modern academic credibility" and destroy the universities, which as you note would result in massive positive changes to society. He wants to "reform" them to disallow specific recent activism. This is not only unhelpful, it is counterproductive. Pointing out inconsistency between actual U.S. policy and the ideology the ruling class uses to legitimize their rule is good and should be encouraged. I stand with you on the 'Yarvin side' as his recent piece eviscerated Rufo's programme.
"uplift humanity"
Would be good to think more about the universal vs the particular. I think Auron is onto something about liberalism as a force to 'scale up' and the 21st century belonging to the particular. Creating a future and founding institutions aimed at serving "humanity" as a whole appears to be flawed, but the Christian and liberal origins of this mindset are clearly evident.
Your numbered programme outline is great. All of them are greatly facilitated by territorial proximity.
Dave; This may be a tad callous in response, but I hear the pessimism of soul-crushing state of California. I left after 45 years...you’re way too individualistic for that place..
Well this was an emotional roller coaster for me. When you started the bit about god i confess i went to sleep. Only to wake up, pick it up again and understand where you were trying to get at, and i was infused with "this guy is on to something" on the Mannerbund part.
"Camraderie between men".
Thats something i never had (enough) in my entire 26 years of life. it's if every other men or boy or young adult, even my very own father, simply did not know the existence or importance of the concept. It is something i was always angry at people for not displaying, yet i myself only saw it at work once. There was this one expat i used to boxe with and he would mentor me after knocking me out day after day. It lasted less than six months but it was such a magnificent feeling. And yet it seems conveniently lost to time and space in this era.
The insertion of women into every male space has something to do with the complete lack of respect men display towards each other. I swear the momment a girl enters the room every beta male declares war on each other. Its maddening.
Perhaps this is a cultural difference between the places we come from. Maybe it never existed here and it used to exist in your country. Maybe it existed 50 years ago. Today the Mannerbund is defunct.
There was this trope in movies where both guys would fistfight and go drink after like friends. here if you punch any other men he will take out a gun and shoot you, or simply involve the police. Which makes me wonder if this trope was even real to begin with in any of the higher civilizations.
Thanks for the read, and excuse my English grammar.
For what it's worth, I'm just a few years older than you (29) and I have friends from both elementary school and high school who had been my enemies until we got into a fight. One guy even became my best friend for years. This might not be common, but it's a real thing. Getting into a fight at least shows that you're willing to stand up for yourself.
I've found in trying to build that many men simply do not see the use of the "leg bones". We live such isolated and comfortable lives that it seems we'd rather just skip that part and experience this restoration alone.
I feel that if we can get a critical mass of men focused on that, the rest will almost immediately fall into place.
Its important to remember to fight assymetrically. The right is weak in political institutions so that is not how we should fight. Dont fight how your opponent is set up to fight, invent a new battlefield.
“All warfare is based on deception." Deceptions can involve false maneuvers, feigned attacks, misleading orders of battle, and creation of deceiving indications of strength or weakness in attempts to influence an enemy's actions.
Know when to fight and when not to fight: avoid what is strong and strike at what is weak. Know how to deceive the enemy: appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. Know your strengths and weaknesses: if you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
Hopium is a very intoxicating drug 😁. Salty cracker is a YouTuber who is not as credentialed as the good doctor but falls into the same category. Always owning the libs and crowing about their stupidity. Always winning 🥇. One thing about the right is that they seem not to care about the arts much. Maybe because they are merchants and don’t see the value. But isn’t there a single rich guy who can fund art that is not converged? I have not seen any.
Dave that was quite the journey! I have actually been on a journey to discover alternatives to what I call a Culture of Separation, for fifty years - without going in depth here, please check out this overview piece I wrote on my Symbiotic Culture Substack linked below.
This is not the case of me promoting my own work, but this seems the best way to get your attention - a very hard commodity these days. I believe those of us who are writing in this area should support one another and be in dialogue and collaboration if possible.
You will also see that I have just released my book as a free weekly series there. For me this is more a lifelong calling rather than promoting anything for myself. It is just that there are certain principles that are very precious to me that need to be a part of a new public conversation.
Symbiotic Culture Overview (I promise it is not very long!)
https://richardflyer.substack.com/p/introducing-symbiotic-culture
Interesting take on Rod Dreher. I’ve been reading his Substack off and on for about two years, and while some of his writing is very good, some of it strikes me as strange or incongruent. He seems angry or moody or volatile or something, especially in light of his Benedictine thinking. Perhaps it’s his divorce. He does have some protective followers. When he references Trump, he seems to want to have it both ways (vote for the awful, despicable, clown!).
New here - liked your essay (long).
Thanks and welcome
I understand the concept and love the blueprint, but I feel like the most difficult part of this is finding a group locally that is like-minded, and is willing to put the effort and intensity into it that is needed to start building up the skeleton. And, doing it without letting the modernity pathogen in. I still see a need for an elite group of skeleton-builders directing the construction.
That’s literally why we developed the basket-weaving project
I’m not up to date in this initiative. I’ll search around for it.
I feel the same way about finding people to participate in a joint venture on this subject. The answer to the question that I have come up with is twofold: 1) clarity of vision and 2) ownership. If you can put your white collar skills to work and draft a business plan then you will want to start with vision and mission statements, the clearer the better. Regarding ownership; I am saving up to buy land to build a farmstead and small village. Being the owner shifts the paradigm and the conversation. I’m not saying you should become a farmer but maybe thinking of the problem in terms of a business-like solution can help you shift your mindset. Also, being the owner means that anyone joining me will be doing things my way which is where the clarity of my vision and mission comes into play.
A fine essay! I have recently thought about getting a job as a tutor, but my hesitancy to help further someone's journey into Academia(TM) has stalled out that thought (like, working at an afterschool tutoring center mostly helping public school kids). Any words of advice?
Open source the lesson plans(see the programming resource "ziglings")? khan adecminy like videos? Focus on a sane topic without credentials, or just reading old books?
I would swap the term "based Longhouse" with "Mama Bear Den"
Now that I was properly called out for tldr'ing this essay and finished the read. A very interesting way of scoping out the same issue I have had in my head for at least the last two years: how do we actually start having a real foundation to regroup and retool for the coming Era?
In my case, I've had the concept of an organization dedicated to putting newlywed families or families with newborns into homes donated to them fo free or for an extremely low rent-to-buy. This could fall under the Legs or Hips, depending on how you prefer to look at it, but I prefer to think of it as mutual aid. By giving the opportunity to a family to not have to worry about a mortgage payment fitting in with child-rearing supplies, I could start to build a set of people that can begin the generational wealth again. Bonus points for the house being on arable land, even more so if they are nearby people of the same mind.
Of course, this is quite a challenge, and would impact only a small amount of people without major charity, but it is at the minimum giving me a puzzle to work with until opportunity arises. But as certain efforts continue, I imagine that we will see that bones, even broken ones, begin to knit when close together.
Great post, especially the bones bit. Rufo doesn't want to "pour gasoline onto the bonfire of modern academic credibility" and destroy the universities, which as you note would result in massive positive changes to society. He wants to "reform" them to disallow specific recent activism. This is not only unhelpful, it is counterproductive. Pointing out inconsistency between actual U.S. policy and the ideology the ruling class uses to legitimize their rule is good and should be encouraged. I stand with you on the 'Yarvin side' as his recent piece eviscerated Rufo's programme.
"uplift humanity"
Would be good to think more about the universal vs the particular. I think Auron is onto something about liberalism as a force to 'scale up' and the 21st century belonging to the particular. Creating a future and founding institutions aimed at serving "humanity" as a whole appears to be flawed, but the Christian and liberal origins of this mindset are clearly evident.
Your numbered programme outline is great. All of them are greatly facilitated by territorial proximity.
Mentioned here! https://auronmacintyre.substack.com/p/the-lost-ritual
Dave; This may be a tad callous in response, but I hear the pessimism of soul-crushing state of California. I left after 45 years...you’re way too individualistic for that place..
GREAT READ!
Why is there an order of building the bones when the story is a man taking what he can from the dead and making some sense of it?
Why couldn't you take a head place in on an empty bit of ground, then find a matching chest?
If it works. The song had an order.
Well this was an emotional roller coaster for me. When you started the bit about god i confess i went to sleep. Only to wake up, pick it up again and understand where you were trying to get at, and i was infused with "this guy is on to something" on the Mannerbund part.
"Camraderie between men".
Thats something i never had (enough) in my entire 26 years of life. it's if every other men or boy or young adult, even my very own father, simply did not know the existence or importance of the concept. It is something i was always angry at people for not displaying, yet i myself only saw it at work once. There was this one expat i used to boxe with and he would mentor me after knocking me out day after day. It lasted less than six months but it was such a magnificent feeling. And yet it seems conveniently lost to time and space in this era.
The insertion of women into every male space has something to do with the complete lack of respect men display towards each other. I swear the momment a girl enters the room every beta male declares war on each other. Its maddening.
Perhaps this is a cultural difference between the places we come from. Maybe it never existed here and it used to exist in your country. Maybe it existed 50 years ago. Today the Mannerbund is defunct.
There was this trope in movies where both guys would fistfight and go drink after like friends. here if you punch any other men he will take out a gun and shoot you, or simply involve the police. Which makes me wonder if this trope was even real to begin with in any of the higher civilizations.
Thanks for the read, and excuse my English grammar.
For what it's worth, I'm just a few years older than you (29) and I have friends from both elementary school and high school who had been my enemies until we got into a fight. One guy even became my best friend for years. This might not be common, but it's a real thing. Getting into a fight at least shows that you're willing to stand up for yourself.
Yeah I get it. It’s just a question of time. I need to do a lot of essays this month. I am going to do a pure video essay at some point too.
I've found in trying to build that many men simply do not see the use of the "leg bones". We live such isolated and comfortable lives that it seems we'd rather just skip that part and experience this restoration alone.
I feel that if we can get a critical mass of men focused on that, the rest will almost immediately fall into place.
Its important to remember to fight assymetrically. The right is weak in political institutions so that is not how we should fight. Dont fight how your opponent is set up to fight, invent a new battlefield.
Great article.
“All warfare is based on deception." Deceptions can involve false maneuvers, feigned attacks, misleading orders of battle, and creation of deceiving indications of strength or weakness in attempts to influence an enemy's actions.
Know when to fight and when not to fight: avoid what is strong and strike at what is weak. Know how to deceive the enemy: appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. Know your strengths and weaknesses: if you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
Hopium is a very intoxicating drug 😁. Salty cracker is a YouTuber who is not as credentialed as the good doctor but falls into the same category. Always owning the libs and crowing about their stupidity. Always winning 🥇. One thing about the right is that they seem not to care about the arts much. Maybe because they are merchants and don’t see the value. But isn’t there a single rich guy who can fund art that is not converged? I have not seen any.
Excellent essay. There is so much to unpack, but reassembling the bones of a society and culture long gone was spot on.