Firstly, a reward for certain levels of donation could be effectively a subscription to a printed pulp magazine, quarterly or semi-annually, printing the winners, and consider also offering regularly printed anthologies of the top-tier canon published. Sale of various anthologies, particularly the entry-level "here's how it all began" books, can help fund the project.
Second, as part of the art stage later on, consider motion-picture and animated productions of favorite stories - if you have a fandom, why not fan films, considering how high-quality they can be now?
Third, it may be that you find the real pro writers are up for the challenge of writing to guidelines and within boundaries, if it's worth their time.
Fourth, this whole enterprise could be a publishing house with several settings for different tastes, supporting Gothic Sci-Fi, Space Opera, Fantasy worlds.
Fifth, there should be some rule against getting a place on the board by donating large amounts of money - if the board has the power to turn, say, 'Star Wars' into 'Last Jedi,' there needs to be some pretty strong guards against infiltration.
I enjoy this article. A nitpick though: throughout the article, you kept talking about "cannon" when you ought to be talking about "canon." The latter is a collection of related works. The former is a large artillery weapon.
On a separate note, what do you think of projects like Vox Day's Arkhaven Comics/Arktoons (link: https://www.arkhaven.com)? Is it an exception to the rule of there not being any good right-wing creativity or are there some major problems with how it's set up?
Also, I'd like to be an in-depth writer for whatever project you happen to make, if you like. I'd prefer fantasy over science fiction, but I'm really up for any challenge.
I may have skimmed over the main problem, what the telos of this community is. Not is to be, but is.
I think of the Bible, the OT at least. As I understand it this was reconfigured at the time of the exile as a portable culture for a people without a land. The telos was that the people held together. The glue was an inward turn to their own trajectory out of time, using their own books and digesting those into one book, a sort of sinking anthology.
Can the same be done for the West, or the English or at some other level? The homelands are breaking up and most peoples will dissolve in the empires they are moved into. The raw materials for a new Tanach would start with the Bible itself, which might also be the pattern into which material is assimilated: fragments of history, song, drama. It would go along with a turn inward in terms of food and dress.
The will of a group to turn in on itself deforms reality, and creates the forces that sustain it. Rulebooks and constitutions don’t come into it.
An interesting take on how to Lore-maxx. I'm not surprised that we do not see more of this take on how to tell stories, considering it requires a lot of social trust between strangers at the starting phase, but it is a system with great potential.
I should mention that this model has, whether partial or wholly, been used in the S.C.P. Foundation writing group.
For those that have no idea what I am talking about, the SCP Foundation is a fictional writing collaborative, that started with a simple prompt: write a small description of something with otherworldly properties, such as an unkillable lizard or an alarm clock that gets infinitely louder, and additionally describe how said object is contained to prevent it from harming humanity.
From this basic idea came a massive community of writers as well as several external media creations, such as multiple video games and a few short films.
Throwing my hat into the ring, If some artsy folks have a desire for stories, or the someone has the wish to create a world-seed, I am better at looking at things from the executive perspective; organizing schedules, looking at potential problems to suggestions, creating a coherent vision statement, etc. So effectively the "Junior Cat-Wrangler".
Could this work for a fantasy setting or any kind of setting that was confined to one planet? A blank globe filled in by submissions? Randomly-generated landmasses with calls for submissions to develop societies (or maybe even species) to inhabit different biomes, starting at stone-age level and working forward? It reminds me of Borges' "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius."
It's been a long time since I looked at it (it was going full-steam when I found it and I didn't find much room to contribute) but it seems like it might work along similar principles. It did inspire my own fictional world - yes, I'm one of the first kinds of people, but if something like this took off and was in a setting that interested me, I'd be interested in trying my hand at contributing.
You seem to be arguing that without the big advertising budget necessary to make a movie the "talk of the nation", then the nation won't have the movie as a common symbol on which to iterate and improve.
However, in the RW social media, memes often are viral enough to create a common culture. People adopt Apu imagery and use it in their own memes. So virality is an alternative to a big ad budget.
Dave, if you want something done, just do it. You obviously want to create a story (or set of stories) from within a science fiction setting, so go write a story or two and see how well your work is received rather than existing in a myopic slog wherein you meander whether or not there will be any more stories worth investing in.
The only thing stopping you from doing this is your own cold feet. There is a sense of needing the work you create to be perfect or good enough to have a real world impact but, realistically, all great art is done for its own sake which you obviously want to achieve even if there's other goals (like cultural or political influence stemming directly or indirectly from your work) getting in the way. It is perfectly fine if you start out writing garbage or if it does not ever lead to a push towards some artistic revolution; the reality at that point will be that you have actually given yourself a creative outlet that is good for you.
As for community, "Build it and they will come.". Especially since you have the starting advantage of already having an audience. People will want to see how good or bad your writing is, and there will be those who will completely rip and tear apart your work. However, the harshest critics will be one of your greatest assets as you can then take what they say and use that to improve your writing.
And, this is probably my most biased and subjective critique, from my perspective I believe you will be much happier as an author of fiction than attempting to be a political commentator. Take that for what you will.
It seems like there's precedent for this in things like the SCP project. The board just have to be ready to prefer political loyalty over quality when selecting their successors.
Dave, reading your description of the two kinds of messages you receive, I found myself thinking about how much the second kind of person describes me. If you would like to reach out and provide materials on your world, I'd love to work with you to write a short story. My talents and preference have always laid more in writing prose than in developing overarching worlds.
If you're interested, I imagine you could give me details on your world building and I could pick out or suggest a contained narrative that could be told within the world, going back and forth with you on details to make sure they preserve the integrity of the themes.
I don't need to be credited or anything, I would just see it as a fun thing to do in my spare time :)
A lot of "art" right wingers currently like explains a lot of why woke won. Woke is, if nothing else, challenging and transgressive in its own way. Much more than buxom cartoon women selling exploitative mobile games or other banal and embarrassing power fantasies.
This is highly ambitious and I'm curious how it would get off the ground. I'd look forward to something utilizing this outline, and I'd love to contribute, but I'm not sure how you'd start something like this.
I feel that the Creative Commons licensing is insufficient: A license serving a project of this nature should be viral. An Exquisite Corpus work licensed under the hypothetical CC-By-EXQC-1.0 license should insist derivative works also be licensed under CC-By-EXQC-1.0 license.
Interesting. Some thoughts:
Firstly, a reward for certain levels of donation could be effectively a subscription to a printed pulp magazine, quarterly or semi-annually, printing the winners, and consider also offering regularly printed anthologies of the top-tier canon published. Sale of various anthologies, particularly the entry-level "here's how it all began" books, can help fund the project.
Second, as part of the art stage later on, consider motion-picture and animated productions of favorite stories - if you have a fandom, why not fan films, considering how high-quality they can be now?
Third, it may be that you find the real pro writers are up for the challenge of writing to guidelines and within boundaries, if it's worth their time.
Fourth, this whole enterprise could be a publishing house with several settings for different tastes, supporting Gothic Sci-Fi, Space Opera, Fantasy worlds.
Fifth, there should be some rule against getting a place on the board by donating large amounts of money - if the board has the power to turn, say, 'Star Wars' into 'Last Jedi,' there needs to be some pretty strong guards against infiltration.
I enjoy this article. A nitpick though: throughout the article, you kept talking about "cannon" when you ought to be talking about "canon." The latter is a collection of related works. The former is a large artillery weapon.
On a separate note, what do you think of projects like Vox Day's Arkhaven Comics/Arktoons (link: https://www.arkhaven.com)? Is it an exception to the rule of there not being any good right-wing creativity or are there some major problems with how it's set up?
Also, I'd like to be an in-depth writer for whatever project you happen to make, if you like. I'd prefer fantasy over science fiction, but I'm really up for any challenge.
I can write and I have trouble coming up with stuff to write about. How do I get in on this?
I may have skimmed over the main problem, what the telos of this community is. Not is to be, but is.
I think of the Bible, the OT at least. As I understand it this was reconfigured at the time of the exile as a portable culture for a people without a land. The telos was that the people held together. The glue was an inward turn to their own trajectory out of time, using their own books and digesting those into one book, a sort of sinking anthology.
Can the same be done for the West, or the English or at some other level? The homelands are breaking up and most peoples will dissolve in the empires they are moved into. The raw materials for a new Tanach would start with the Bible itself, which might also be the pattern into which material is assimilated: fragments of history, song, drama. It would go along with a turn inward in terms of food and dress.
The will of a group to turn in on itself deforms reality, and creates the forces that sustain it. Rulebooks and constitutions don’t come into it.
Very good article, really turns a well known problem into a viable solution
An interesting take on how to Lore-maxx. I'm not surprised that we do not see more of this take on how to tell stories, considering it requires a lot of social trust between strangers at the starting phase, but it is a system with great potential.
I should mention that this model has, whether partial or wholly, been used in the S.C.P. Foundation writing group.
For those that have no idea what I am talking about, the SCP Foundation is a fictional writing collaborative, that started with a simple prompt: write a small description of something with otherworldly properties, such as an unkillable lizard or an alarm clock that gets infinitely louder, and additionally describe how said object is contained to prevent it from harming humanity.
From this basic idea came a massive community of writers as well as several external media creations, such as multiple video games and a few short films.
Throwing my hat into the ring, If some artsy folks have a desire for stories, or the someone has the wish to create a world-seed, I am better at looking at things from the executive perspective; organizing schedules, looking at potential problems to suggestions, creating a coherent vision statement, etc. So effectively the "Junior Cat-Wrangler".
Could this work for a fantasy setting or any kind of setting that was confined to one planet? A blank globe filled in by submissions? Randomly-generated landmasses with calls for submissions to develop societies (or maybe even species) to inhabit different biomes, starting at stone-age level and working forward? It reminds me of Borges' "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius."
About 15 years ago for a time I followed Il Bethisad, a collaborative counterfactual world: http://ib.frath.net/w/Ill_Bethisad
It's been a long time since I looked at it (it was going full-steam when I found it and I didn't find much room to contribute) but it seems like it might work along similar principles. It did inspire my own fictional world - yes, I'm one of the first kinds of people, but if something like this took off and was in a setting that interested me, I'd be interested in trying my hand at contributing.
You seem to be arguing that without the big advertising budget necessary to make a movie the "talk of the nation", then the nation won't have the movie as a common symbol on which to iterate and improve.
However, in the RW social media, memes often are viral enough to create a common culture. People adopt Apu imagery and use it in their own memes. So virality is an alternative to a big ad budget.
Dave, if you want something done, just do it. You obviously want to create a story (or set of stories) from within a science fiction setting, so go write a story or two and see how well your work is received rather than existing in a myopic slog wherein you meander whether or not there will be any more stories worth investing in.
The only thing stopping you from doing this is your own cold feet. There is a sense of needing the work you create to be perfect or good enough to have a real world impact but, realistically, all great art is done for its own sake which you obviously want to achieve even if there's other goals (like cultural or political influence stemming directly or indirectly from your work) getting in the way. It is perfectly fine if you start out writing garbage or if it does not ever lead to a push towards some artistic revolution; the reality at that point will be that you have actually given yourself a creative outlet that is good for you.
As for community, "Build it and they will come.". Especially since you have the starting advantage of already having an audience. People will want to see how good or bad your writing is, and there will be those who will completely rip and tear apart your work. However, the harshest critics will be one of your greatest assets as you can then take what they say and use that to improve your writing.
And, this is probably my most biased and subjective critique, from my perspective I believe you will be much happier as an author of fiction than attempting to be a political commentator. Take that for what you will.
It seems like there's precedent for this in things like the SCP project. The board just have to be ready to prefer political loyalty over quality when selecting their successors.
Dave, reading your description of the two kinds of messages you receive, I found myself thinking about how much the second kind of person describes me. If you would like to reach out and provide materials on your world, I'd love to work with you to write a short story. My talents and preference have always laid more in writing prose than in developing overarching worlds.
If you're interested, I imagine you could give me details on your world building and I could pick out or suggest a contained narrative that could be told within the world, going back and forth with you on details to make sure they preserve the integrity of the themes.
I don't need to be credited or anything, I would just see it as a fun thing to do in my spare time :)
A lot of "art" right wingers currently like explains a lot of why woke won. Woke is, if nothing else, challenging and transgressive in its own way. Much more than buxom cartoon women selling exploitative mobile games or other banal and embarrassing power fantasies.
This is highly ambitious and I'm curious how it would get off the ground. I'd look forward to something utilizing this outline, and I'd love to contribute, but I'm not sure how you'd start something like this.
How do we contribute to this project?
I feel that the Creative Commons licensing is insufficient: A license serving a project of this nature should be viral. An Exquisite Corpus work licensed under the hypothetical CC-By-EXQC-1.0 license should insist derivative works also be licensed under CC-By-EXQC-1.0 license.
For my own part, I am willing to submit myself to a larger worldbuilding and focus on the nitty-gritty details. Sign me up for the proletariat!