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dzholopago's avatar

This was an excellent essay, and probably more useful now than it would have been had the election turned out otherwise. Reading it leads me to ask what you would consider examples of "real politics," as opposed to fake or lunar politics. I found it easy to think of some, but wonder if you would agree -- if I've managed to grasp what you mean. I hope that you'll understand that these are not meant to be insulting or inflammatory.

I would offer the nineteenth-century Sicilian mafia, Lebanese Hizboallah, and the Afghan Taliban as potential models. All had their origins as practical associations of men who shared a common culture and were forced to respond to greater or lesser degrees of state and societal failure. Each existed in a very different context, and evolved in different ways, but all started at a local scale and either integrated or spread.

If these are valid examples, do you think that it is possible to emulate them without the same degree of cultural conformity that they enjoyed? How much do you think the various "right-wing community-building" organizations that you have experience with actually enjoy such conformity?

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[Think I accidentally replied to someone else at first]

Perhaps I'm just making shit up but from my experience as a zoomer growing up around when Millennials were the key drivers of pop-culture there very much seemed to be an archetypical 'Late 2000s dream'. Imagery of tight-knit communities of carefree young adults frolicking in the fields on a trip out in the country with romances blossoming comes to mind here. What is odd (as you speak of often) is how this aesthetic never really translated into reality. Millenial values, in the long run at least never flourished into this. Possibly the biggest task of my generation is going to be taking mere aesthetics and turning them into a living reality - Of course will have to do my own part here and have discussed with my friends how we can potentially start doing our own local roles in this.

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